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Xbox 360 Three Red Lights hardware failures persist with Jasper Xbox 360; What is a consumer to do? PDF Print E-mail
Written by Alexis M. (Rivithed)   
Saturday, 08 August 2009

You may have heard there are more Xbox 360 retail units coming soon. Probably with it, you may also be hoping that Microsoft has finally figured out the Three Red Light failure, also known as Red Ring of Death (RROD). Don't count on it. If you thought the Xbox 360's problems were solved with the recent "Jasper" Xbox 360 unit (reduced power consumption 12.1 amp unit with 65nm CPU and 65nm GPU), they were not.

I can tell you from my firsthand experience, the Jasper Xbox 360 has been my 8th Xbox 360 system to fail, only after 3 months from purchasing it. I had purchased it in hopes of using an Xbox 360 unit that wouldn't fail after returning seven Xbox 360 units back to Microsoft, all for the same Three Red Light Failure. Yes, I am about to head into my 9th Xbox 360 unit since I purchased the Xbox 360 at launch on November 22, 2005. My experience isn't an isolated one and as time goes on, it seems like it's only snowballing for Microsoft.

Here are various reports from just the past week on the Xbox 360 Three Red Light Failures and consumer experiences:

"My Xbox 360 Died Part III" - Article notes "Microsoft has leased space on the actual UPS grounds."
"An Xbox 360 Comedy of Error" - Article notes the consumer experience in returning an Xbox 360.
"Just got the RROD on my 360 Elite..." - Recent questions and experiences with the Red Ring of Death

There are also other issues affecting the Xbox 360, where consumers are being charged $99 for repairs by Microsoft:
"Guess who's getting sued again?" - "Microsoft is being sued yet again for allegedly knowingly selling, and profiting off of, defective products."

Back in 2007, I posted an article when the Xbox 360 Elite system was introduced, thinking that would have solved the Xbox 360 hardware failures. From the regular comments below the article, you can see that the Xbox 360 Elite is failing as well. You can see more consumer experiences here on an another article from 2007. Just search for terms such as "RROD, xbox 360 three red lights, xbox 360 failure rate" and you'll find many failure reports and consumer experiences with the Xbox 360.

Microsoft has tried various measures to address the broken Xbox 360 systems, from extending the warranty on an Xbox 360 to three years for the Three Red Light failure (also recently extended for E74 errors) and Microsoft doing behind-the-scenes modifications to the Xbox 360 hardware (these are the codenames you hear about: "Jasper," "Falcon," "Zephyr"). Microsoft has setup a site to initiate repair service at support.xbox.com. If you are experiencing problems with the RROD, I advise you to call 1-800-4MYXBOX (1-800-469-9269). Do not use support.xbox.com. It may take you weeks to get your Xbox 360 unit back. Call in and speak to the service personnel and let them know you want your repair expedited. This is Microsoft's problem and they are inconveniencing YOU with it. Their automated system only conveniences them and takes time away from your entertainment and for services you are paying for, such as their 1-year Xbox LIVE Gold Membership fee and Netflix, if you subscribe to either of those.

As someone who writes about gaming just about everyday for the last several years, I can tell you the Xbox 360 is an unreliable gaming system. Yes, the online play is great with Xbox LIVE. Some of the Xbox 360 exclusives are incredible. But if you can't rely on step one, powering it on, what good is it? It's surprising that Microsoft continues to sell Xbox 360 units with such persistent hardware failures. As I learned in the book "The Race For a New Game Machine," Microsoft was in a rush to get their Xbox 360 system out before their competitor, Sony's PLAYSTATION 3. Microsoft may have made it out of the gate first, but it's a price they're paying for dearly now, and in the long run. The hasty release is also costing you, the consumer.

So I open this post to comments from you, to share your experience with the Xbox 360. If you had the RROD failure, where have you reported it? How has the Xbox 360 failures affected you? What advice would you give other Xbox 360 customers having problems with the hardware?

Comments
How many?
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 09:17:00
You listed that you are on your eighth system... how man of those are warranty boxes that you didn't pay for and how many have been purchased (either by you or through a company account)? 
 
I couldn't conceive of buying that many consoles. I'm, luckily, still on my first, though I've been getting some telltale hints it might be on the way out. If it goes, that's it for me (I'm out of the warranty coverage). Reading that the problems still exist are enough for me to not want to take the risk, especially since all of my friends have had their boxes die on them several times.
that sucks
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 09:26:19
Simple solution to this problem, PS3. I'm no fanboy, I just like having a system that turns on when I want it to. I loved the 360 at first, but I've never had one last more than a year... I think we all know why the Arcade sku exsists... EASY REPLACEMENT. It's sad how thinly veiled MS's tactics are, but hey, people keep falling for it over and over again, so really, it's our fault... this problem won't be "solved" until consumers just stop buying it, and American culture cannot allow us to stop doing what we do best... blindly consume.
8 times RROD
Written by Alexis M. on 2009-08-08 09:33:30
The 7th Xbox 360 was out of warranty, where I was told I had to pay $99, even though it was an RROD issue again. All my Xbox 360 repairs were through Microsoft's warranty, and all for RROD. After speaking to a supervisor at the repair center she gave me "lifetime" RROD coverage. But they did try to charge $99 initially. It was following the 7th return that I bought an Xbox 360 Arcade Jasper system thinking that would go away. It didn't. I'm headed into the 9th Xbox 360, while still on my launch day PlayStation 3 and launch day Nintendo Wii. I've never owned a product that I've returned more than twice.
Thanks for the heads up!
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 09:50:35
I have been tempted many times to buy a xbox360 to play some of the exclusives, but the RROD problem has always scared me away. I too asumed with the latest chipsets, MS would have solved the problems but after reading this article, theres no chance of that happening.  
 
Im also still on my launch day PS3 :)
thanks!
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 09:53:09
Thanks for the reply... man, that's a sweet deal on the lifetime warranty though!
GAME OVER XCRAP
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 09:55:35
the cure - a silent PS3 slim unit, bundle with one game - 299 USD, multiplayer for free. 
end of story
1st RROD
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 09:57:54
My Halo 360 RROD just this week. I was two days into the Fall update beta when it flashed it's ugly eye at me. They are fixing it for free though. Till then it's the PS3 for me.
Mine died MS wouldn't cover it
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 10:20:47
My 360 died. but it never displayed the 3 red lights so MS refused to fix it. I'm not buying another that's for sure.
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 10:21:11
Ok I know that there are problems with the 360 and I'm no fan boy by no means but I see problems with the PS3 as well with the yellow light of death or the blu-ray failure and power supply going bad so it's not just the 360 that has problems. My brothers ps3 died on him along with a lot of my friends and had to pay $150 to get it fixed so at least with the 360 you have 3 years but still you would think that M$ would have figured it out by now so if we are all still getting the RROD then it's some thing else. I have both systems and I love them both so I have no hate for either system. I may have to wait to get my 360 back from death but at least I don't have to pay another $150 to get it fixed like the PS3 after your one year warranty runs out. 3 years vs one year you do the math.
After reading this.........
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 10:24:02
I have PS3 20gb a & I was planning to buy an XBOX 360, probably the Jasper version. 
 
But after reading this... 
 
I'm starting to doubt even the Jasper version. 
 
I'm not that wealthy, but I imagine 8 XBOX 360... O_o 
 
I'll just wait for awhile and buy DS & PSP, and maybe a Wii.
ive had 11 360s
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 10:25:04
i have had 11 red ring of death i bought the xcm high speed air fans and replaced th factory fans. ive had my 360for over 8 months now works awsome.
Xbox 360 failure
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 10:27:17
Microsoft has managed to make a business out of failure.
Mindbendo
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 10:40:58
A) Rush a cheap console 
B) Release lot of addictive games the first few years 
C) Drop the price once the warranties start running out 
D) Say it ain't so, add them to your usebase 
E) Forget that you fooled yourself 
 
Great strategy! And their customers, perhaps the funniest thing of all, they're not fighting the ones that caused this travesty, no noo, they're trashing the ones that offer a far more reliable alternative...and on top of that - hold on 2 your socks now - they keep on buying it! 
 
Here's your average audiolloop from up high in Redmond these days... 
 
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"
KoRnCreep
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 10:47:11
Wow, just wow.Looks like this will never end. Xbox 666 XD 
I`m glad I never had, and never will have any of those boxes!
BBB
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 10:48:15
This kind of thing just shouldn't happen, period. If any other company tried to get away with this, the BBB would shut them down.
Sorry
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 10:50:21
I don't have a 360 and from hearing this, thank god I dont. I'm still on my first ps3 back from november 2007 near the time when cod4 released ;] . You should get one too because you can leave it on throughout the night and it wont overheat.
My experience
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 10:52:00
My first xbox 360 (elite) failed before 1 year. I contacted customer support and it got repaired before a week. 
 
Now my guarantee is done and I hope I will get a RROD and not any other problem. 
But I guess thats what you get for buying from someone who think he's superior.
Not really good evidence
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 10:55:12
The problem with this article is you're trying to say that all XBox 360's have a problem based on anecdotal evidence. You may be right, the Jasper may still suffer from some issues, or you may have been unlucky with your Jasper unit. Remember electronics typically fail at a rate of 3%-5%. Of course I know the XBox 360 fails at a much higher rate, but in order to say that the Jasper units fail above the 5% rate you really need to conduct a real study. Gleaming from comments on blogs and using yourself as a sample population does not constitute a real study.
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 11:00:42
i've had the rrod 3 times thus far...thankfully, ms has fixed it every time for free, but it took them about 3 weeks to get it back to me each time. and if they didn't fix it for free, i would've moved on a long time ago....to the ps3. 
 
i've heard rumors that ms is working on a new system right now...hmmm...why should we trust that this one won't have such a huge failure rate as the 360? i don't know if i'll ever trust them with a new system ever again.
Ka-Ching!
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 11:09:46
400 launch xBox 360 
150 3 year Live 
200 replacement xBox 360 
150 3 year Live 
------------------------------ + 
900 Total
3 - 5 failure normal, but 360 closer to
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 11:22:54
I understand but i believe the last time we got info on wii and ps3 failure rates it was less than 2%. M$ were very brave a while back to disclose the failure rate at 35% - 38%. I have no doubt it is a lot lower than than now but I bet its No where near being lower than 20%, still dread ful for any hardware. Not only does it make a mockery of us 360 owners, myself a 3 times prod user, but it also makes a mockery of any sales figure. I myself have had 2 machine out of warranty and so have bought another 2. 1 being an arcade. 
how many of you 360owners like myself have bought your second and third 360 out of warranty ? I bet the number is scary. so If you take maybe 25% off the sales of 360, it dont make it that far ahead of ps3 sales does it. Dont flame me I know the wii and ps3 fail too. but dont even try put the yellow light of death in the same league as prod.
RROD is a disgrace!
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 11:25:01
I bought my first xbox 360 in November 2005 and it worked fine until it got the rrod in April of this year. I used it a lot but I was very lucky that it even lasted that long. I bought a Jasper arcade then. I have a PS3 since 2007 and never had a problem with it but I don't use it as much as the 360. I wouldn't have bought a new 360 if I hadn't done a lot with my gamertag. That is the reason why most people continue to buy 360s after they experience the rrod. Though if this Jasper fails, I walk away from the 360 for good. I think it is disgraceful that Microsoft can continue to sell these consoles. Sure they offer a three year guarantee but if they repair or replace your console, you only get a three month guarantee. Their fixes are only temporary so if you get the rrod, you need to buy a new console. Their hard drives are also way overpriced and I'm getting the E68 error with my 120gb hard drive. It sill works but I get the error from time to time. I first got the error only a month after purchasing it. Microsoft need to get their act together or they will lose a lot of customers, one of them being me.
Best Buy worker here
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 11:29:39
At the store I work I see VERY FEW Jaspers coming back for repair or returns, most failures are older consoles. Of the Jaspers we do get I have never seen a RROD failure. I think yours is an isolated incident.  
 
We see just as many problems with PS3s as we do Jaspers so stop spreading this FUD.
No way
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 11:32:42
the PS3 failure rate is 2%. I don't know where that figure came from but I can assure you it is no longer valid. We see 3 PS3s a week brought into the store due to problems that have made the system unusable.  
 
Bestbuy Guy
Is this a world wide problem?
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 11:53:01
Is it just consoles in the U.S. or is a world wide problem. I was considering getting a Jasper console, but I think I'll wait. To those with failed Jasper consoles, is the area free from dust & your unobstructed, or is it just failing for no reason?
Jasper is probably what the launch 360 s
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 12:00:46
How many Jasper designed 360 consoles have failed when compared to the other 360 designs? Most well designed electronics have a 3-5% failure rate. Does the Jasper consoles meet this percentage?
chris
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 12:06:23
why buy 360 it was badly designed,PS3 wasn't.
I would say
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 12:13:57
Jasper consoles are within the 3-5% range. Problem is, half the people claiming their Jaspers failed don't even know if they have a Jasper.  
 
Heck I would say PS3 failure is 10-15% easily, maybe more, yet no one talks about that, then people come into the store irate because their PS3 failed because they thought the PS3 was supposed to be bullet proof.
2 ps3 fails
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 12:18:48
I had two ps3 's fail on me, one after a month and again after 15months, both blueray drive failures. The first was replaced free in 48hrs. The second was done under the after care warranty which costs £5 per month and u can start and finish it when you like. I had 4 360's in a year (all drive failures), and I will never purchase another hardware product from Microsoft. 28 working day turnaround for repair, that's 5 weeks!
Ditched mine before the RRoD
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 12:46:58
My 360 began it's tell-tale signs of the RRoD and I promptly sold it. Freezing games, graphical artifacts, red lights (that went away after cycling the power) and more. I had been considering a purchase sometime soon of another 360 unit in the hopes that the issue was finally corrected. I think I will wait and see. I also own two PS3 40 gig units. My first had the Blu-Ray drive stop working after owning it for four months. Sony promptly fixed my system and shipped it back to me in record time. My second has ran flawlessly, as has my original since the repair.
Really weird
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 12:54:19
that you had 4 360 failures and they were all drive failures. That is not common enough for one person to get 4 in a row.  
 
I often question all these people claiming they have had all these 360 failures, when you consider how many people hate Microsoft, and want to see them fail, its hard to believe all these grand stories that I never see in real life.  
 
Bestbuy Guy
Sorry
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 12:55:26
I own two 360 one from launch the other a year later. I never had any issues...
Why do people keep buying 360's?
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 13:25:01
I was an xbox fanboy, loved the first xbox, one of the nest systems ever made. I got my 360 on launch night, bought every game, except the EA Sports titles, available. It died 8 months later. I got another one, and went through the unbelievably difficult process of getting PERMISSION from Microsoft to download all of the extra content for games I had PURCHASED. That took 3 months. That one lasted for 8 months before it RRODed on me. That was it for me, I said F this, and got a PS3. All of my friends, every single one that I talked into getting a 360, are on their 2nd or 3rd machine. My original xbox is 8 years old and STILL WORKS. WTF? The problem with the 360, is it's use of lead free solder and cold solder joints. The damage isn't done while it's on, it's when you turn it off and the board contracts while it cools, and that cracks the solder that holds the GPU to the board. If it had lead in it, the solder would stretch somewhat, allowing the GPU to maintain connection. Microsoft knows this is the problem, but they can't afford to do anything about it. Plus, Microsoft admit weakness or failure? Never happen. I just can't figure out why people keep buying the damn things. The manager of the Gamestop I frequent, is on his 8th 360. When I ask, people always say, "Oh , Live is soooo awesome." I admit it is better than PSN, but you know what? Having a PS3 and not having to live in fear, wondering if my machine will give me green lights or red, every time I turn it on, is well worth giving up Live. I honestly don't miss it much anymore. I have had my PS3 for 2 years now, and not a single problem. I even put in a 320GB hard drive in it, for $90. Anyway, that's my opinion and my experience. Good luck with your 360's, I wouldn't wish RROD on my worst enemy.
7 and counting.
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 13:41:44
So far my self ive haved seven xbox 360's fail on me and out of the seven only two got the RRoD, my first console (launch console) was the first one and my first elite system got it as well. Other then that ive had any thing from the video card stop working, the console stop reading discs and a referb that didnt even work when i got it from them. 
 
as far as consumers being charged $99 for repairs by Microsoft, thats cause of one of two diffrent reasons most likely, either A: They some how voided the warrenty on the system or B: Their warrenty has expired, cause microsoft only extended thar RRoD coverage for a certain ammount of time and that time has come and passed. 
 
I my self have never been charged, on my last console i sent in they tried to charge me but i spoke to the on duty supervisor and he did it for free, even sent me the box on my most recent even after they said they werent gonna send any more "coffins" out.
BASHEM72
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 14:19:02
Im on my 3rd x360 console. The 1st I got in early06 sent it in for repairs, and they sent me a refurb x360 back. It lasted almost a year and then the colors of the screen started to mess up while playing any of my 50 games. The screen was 1 of 3 colors red,green, and yellow. So I called M$ and they told me It would cost me $99 for repairs. Well by this time the jaspers were just coming out so I bought a new arcade x360 bundle and got a falcon 360. Its still working but its only been 6months. Another 6 to 10 months and I will most likely be looking at x360 number 4. Hopefully by then the price will drop to $99 or $129.99. Im still on my launch PS3, great console. When purchasing games I usually buy PS3 games unless its got some sort of exclusive DLC for x360 only. I think M$ should drop the price of there console to $50 to $99 It only seems fair with the amount of trouble your purchasing. Great article, It about time somebody said something after the first wave of RROD.
BASHEM72
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 14:41:15
BUY A PS3 if you want a real working console that will last for more than a year!
ah?
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 14:47:17
i found all thesestories hard to believe. i got my 360 since 2007 and everything is ok. i even fall sleep and left the console turned on all night oftenly... so stop lying =)
3 - 5 % failure rate is unacceptable.
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 14:54:16
I was reading some of the comments made by some of your readers. For some reason some of them think that a 3 to 5 % failure rate is acceptable for a mass market consumer device. I seriously doubt anyone other than MS could stay in business with that high of a failure rate.
rico
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 14:54:54
i think i have a falcon not sure my first xbox is working after a few months
Good advice
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 15:11:01
Don't put your Xbox in a hot place. This includes all those fancy cabinets that are supposed to hide all your game systems away and make your living room absolutely fabulous. Both of my friends have had issues with their Xboxes, and both of them keep them in HOT places, one in a Cabinet, and the other propped up between two hot CRT televisions.
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 15:39:33
I feel for you mate ..had my xbox360 over a year now and no issues (hopefullly there won't be) and my ps3 launch console ..it does suck this hardware failure but the xbox360 is still must own console
Another best buy worker from the top bes
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 15:47:46
I work Loss pervention and Merch at my bestbuy store. I can tell you i see a ton of 360's in a month id say at least 20 to 25 and maybe like 5 PS3's. the Ps3 slim is coming out real soon. 360 will soon be screwed. if you add it all up PS3 is by far a better value.
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 17:11:17
Im only on my 2nd and I've been most protective of it like keeping it on a clean surface away from walls and not moving it while its on and stuff. I still get a couple errors once in awhile and if this goes, I'm done with all xbox 360s...im going to be really skeptical over the new xbox and just wait a year or 2 and just play my ps3.
I'm onto my 6th...
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 17:27:49
I'm onto my 6th, the one that I have now has the built-in memory so I think it's the new model. I've not had any problem with it yet, but it makes quite a loud noise when discs are spinning. The noise from the fan is quite loud, but it's less loud when it laid flat rather than when it's stood-up. All in all, it doesn't matter what version you've got, you'll have to have it fixed at some point. They're basically a nightmare.null
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 18:01:23
I was going to buy a XBox 360 when I was told about RROD. Obviously, I dropped the idea as, despite the many cool titles exclusively available to the 360, it is not worthy of the trouble. I am sad for all people that got a 360 without knowing about Microsoft's quality control but I really don't understand why some many others keep loyal to a company that clearly don't give a damn about customers' satisfaction (extended warranty is a poor excuse for a poorly design product).
Greedy Microsoft
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 18:14:12
Just another multinational corporation screwing its customers.
had 3 RROD
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 18:27:08
After number 3 in 2007 i gave up and waited it out, bought a ps3 in 2008 and never had a problem, you can put a huge hardrive in it and play online free, fair enough the price is a little higher now but once it drops i really cant see the point in buying a 360, maybe if ppl stop buying it developers will actually put some more effort into 3rd party ps3 games.
On Second One Here
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 18:35:43
I am only on my second 360, *knocks on wood*, but I hope they are spending a lot more time on development of the hardware this time around.
BS
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 19:58:50
Stop fooling yourself, MS isnt planing anything concerning motherboard changes or updates. The only way to prevent RROD/E74 is putting it into another PC casing with a huge amount of fans(water cooling ect.......) 
 
If my next xbox fails after ive done this conversion, ill go happily and throw it through they're window
Alexa310
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 20:08:50
been through 8 360 since 2007 I'm on my 9 it's an elite and I already have it for about 5 month hope it keeps going strong but I doubt it. Also have a ps3 since it came out no problem at all, except for the ocasional freezes.
I disagree with u... I gues your lying
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 20:15:43
here in our country, We had a shared forum of xbox 360 "jasper" users and from all the months of hardcore gaming, we ourselves dnt have the 3 RROD... Show some evidence or you are just a PS3 fanboy trash talking to xbox because u have nothing to do.
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 20:45:51
My PS3 locks up all the time! 
 
I hop back on my Jasper 360 and enjoy the better game selection!
UK to Frankfurt
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 20:47:10
My mate's UK 360 died 3 weeks ago and underwarranty M$ said they would fix it for free. It was sent over to Frankfurt and he was able to track it all the way. He then got it back a couple days ago and M$ won't touch it as they believe it's been tampered with. Mate hasn't but M$ were happy to charge £150. Screw M$ as they have too many excuses to charge you even though hardware/software failure is their fault.
Stupidity at best....
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 21:46:34
IS what I see every time I read someone defend MS or try to spin PS3 failure rates (even PS1 or PS2 - which never came close to the astounding 33% X360 got...).  
"OH!Live is so amazing! My gamer tag rules! Myfriends are all there"" F*** it! MS is shoving it and you guys are asking for more? Masochist? Or you just can throw money away that easily? Amarecan 'pride' in its gaming console? Another chance to prove what the world thinks about americans are... Well...why the f#@k do I care anyway...MS got exactly what it wanted...a bunch of fools that'll do anything for them! Congrats!
David
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 21:47:58
I have had all three next gen consoles well actually they are not all next gen, the 360 I had rrod 3 times and that was enough for me, I had a nintendo wii day one launch, never had a problem with it other than it really isn't a next gen console and neither is the 360, the 360 doestnt even have wifi, my phone even has wifi, the wii doesn't have a hard drive or next gen disc drive. I am truly a gamer and not just another stupid fanboy, I have owned every game console ever made and so far this gen my ps3 has been the most reliable and I have the 60 gig version launch console with no problems besides freezing up every once in a while like a computer will do yet. I think also that if Microsoft wasn't so greedy that they would have taken a little bit more time and effort into the 360 and made sure that there where no problems with it and added a disc drive that could play disc other than DVD 10 because they are holding developers back from making truely next gen games like blueray. If they had included HD DVD or rather blue Ray which has alot more gigs then the games would be amazing. Ps. I will never buy another Microsoft peice of hardware.
wary one
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 21:49:51
I will be buying a PS3 as soon as the price drops. The reason.....X360's scare the hell outta me. Who cares if it has a bigger game selection, who cares if it has more "exclusives" If i'm spending my hard earned money on something I expect reliability and peace of mind. My Wii is faultless and my PS2 has never once tripped up in nearly 10 years.
Full of it
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 21:54:56
I along with quite a few other people I know have never had any hardware failure of any kind on any of our 360's. I will concede that their failure rates are way higher than they should be for any consumer electronic, but the MAJORITY of us don't experience these. Do the math. Let's say there are 30 million xboxs out ther just to keep it easy. Even if the failure rate is as high as 30% the majority of us(21 million) don't have these issues. So, although unfortunate for those of you that have had consoles fail, YOU ARE THE EXCEPTION not the rule.
#6 and Counting
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 22:11:08
I just buy the extended warranty and when they die, I just exchange them at the store I bought them at.  
 
The warranty only cost 20 bucks and I walk out of the store the same day. I just use the same hard drive 
 
This is the only piece of equipment I have ever bought the warranty for but after launch and I saw all the stories online I won't even look @ a 360 without one. 
 
I have a PS3 as well, just not many of my friends have them so I keep replacing the 360s.
BS
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 22:36:52
what about all you playstation fanboys what were you saying when the ps2 had all of its problems i know people that bought 2 or 3 ps2 
 
playstation: cd drive problem 
playstation2: dvd drive problem  
playstation 3: bluray drive & ylod problem
Same Here
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 22:50:22
i myself have gone thru 9 xboxs and im sending another back 2 MS. im sick of having 2 wait three weeks to get a new one. i still will always be loyal to xbox with their unique achievements. i just wish after more than 3 years they would have been smart enough 2 fix this problem that every1 has gone thru. :(
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 22:55:34
I got my 360 about 2 months before Halo 3 came out, and it died about half a year, if not more, later. I'm still on my 360 that I got back from MS, and it's alive and kicking (knock on wood.)
lol
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 23:34:20
I wish I had the exact numbers from our store but in the last few months we've had 2 PS3's returned and a MOUNTAIN of 360's. My son is on his 5th and I've set up the last few with extra fans blowing on them and that hasn't helped much. I'm stuck with almost 100 360 games that I wish I has on PS3. I've been playing a ps3 but if this slim comes out soon my son will be also. Microsoft should be ashamed of the junk that this console is.
I Got Screwed Too...
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 23:35:34
I never thought I'd write about this again, hence, I vented all my frustration out into gaming forums a long time ago. But, I am here to say I have been through three 360's. Actually, two- because the third one was never opened due to my selling it immediately. I acquired it brand new as an exchange for the second unit (from a retail store)- which was exhibiting signs of overheating while playing graphics intensive games, like Gears of War. It stayed cool with Halo 2, though. Knowing that it was just a matter of time before it went belly up like my first one I got rid of it. I will not bother describing how horrendous customer service is with the 360. The 800-4-My-Xbox number that the author suggests as a means of expedition of service is still piss poor. While I was experiencing RROD, those idiots (half of whom don't speak clear English) sent me a packing box three times. Each box didn't have the supplied prepaid return postage label. Eventually, I just gave up. Waiting two to three weeks between boxes was too much. This was the straw that broke the camels back for me, and I have been enjoying my PS3 ever since. To the guy who writes "BS"- keep in mind that this critique of the 360 is not a fanboy ammunition against it...it is a fact. As a matter of fact, according to a reputable source it is believed that the long acknowledged 33% failure rate is drastically higher, closer to 60.0%. That's a lot of defective 360's. PS3's failure rate is markedly lower, more along the lines of what the standard failure rate of an electronic piece of equipment is supposed to be. It really makes me sick with anger when I think about it. I'm still waiting for my moment to revel as I watch Microsoft's 360 business dissipate into the piece of garbage that it inherently is.
MY ADVICE TO WRITER
Written by Guest on 2009-08-08 23:58:22
My advice to you is.... stop opening your console and modding your 360 to play piarted games. I mean, what the hell is the problem? Dont you get the 3 year warranty like everyone else? If you do, then where is the problem? I pity the Gaming Journalism Industry for articles like these.
XCRAP IS DEAD
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 00:35:20
kiddo xbot STFU .. we are talking here about 30-50-100% probability of a RROD.
FAIL MOAR?
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 06:24:59
You obviously have to be doing something wrong, 8 Units all RROD, Epic Fail. Probably Keep it in a tiny box...Fail MOARRR. 
 
MS Shouldnt even let you send it back.
@ BS
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 00:57:50
Don't try and take away from the immense failure the 360 is. 
 
PlayStation failure rates are nothing compared to the 360! I still have my fully functional PS2 after about 8 years and my PS3 is still working solidly. 
 
I can pretty much guarantee that if I was dumb enough to support the 360, I would be on my second console by now.
DOG MEAT IS DELICIOUS
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 01:00:21
WOULD YOU INVEST IN A TOASTER WITH HIGH DEFECTIVE RATES? 
 
WOULD YOU INVEST IN A CAR WITH HIGH DEFECTIVE RATES? 
 
WOULD YOU INVEST IN A GAMING PC RIG WITH HIGH DEFECTIVE RATES? 
 
WOULD YOU INVEST IN A PLASMA TV WITH HIGH DEFECTIVE RATES? 
 
WOULD YOU INVEST IN A GIRLFRIEND WITH HIGH DEFECTIVE RATES? 
 
WOULD YOU INVEST IN AN IPOD WITH HIGH DEFECTIVE RATES?
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 01:41:53
I know the 360 is unreliable with how often mine crashes. I too have had the RROD and so has everyone at my work who has bought one (actually I think it's all but one). One of them is on his 3rd Xbox. But on your 8th? That seems a bit much, even for an Xbox. Is it on 24/7, or is it not ventilated enough? It seems a lot given it's only been out a few years.
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 01:54:20
what about all you playstation fanboys what were you saying when the ps2 had all of its problems i know people that bought 2 or 3 ps2  
 
playstation: cd drive problem  
playstation2: dvd drive problem  
playstation 3: bluray drive & ylod problem 
 
Non of them make your console die and make you throw from window. PS3 and other PS are great hardware. You have to accept it. And notice that i have PS3 and Xbox 360 too.
merry xbox
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 03:27:45
Also on my 9th... tired of DLC BS... bought PS3!
The problem might be... YOU!
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 04:53:29
One isolated incident of RROD in a jasper console does not mean the failure rate has not improved to industry-typical levels, although it is defiantly a possibility that they still suck. However, it is unreasonable to expect 0 consoles out of hundreds of thousands to have hardware break, even if they are "improved". I also don't understand people who say they are on their 8th or 9th console... Eventually you have the think "maybe I am doing something wrong". If the average life-span of a xenon 360 is 2 years, to go through 8 consoles indicates you are at least 4 standard deviations from the norm. In other-words, turn the xbox off when you go to sleep or take it off the radiator.
Thanks for your replies.
Written by Alexis M. on 2009-08-09 06:49:10
First, thanks for sharing your experiences with your Xbox 360 systems. That's what this is about. I'm not surprised that this has turned into a bit of a system flaming argument, but that's not what this is about. Ask your friends, other people in the gaming media and even in Microsoft and retail stores, and you know the RROD is still happening. 
 
Just so you know, the Xbox 360s I've had were in a shared space on an open entertainment center right alongside a Wii and PS3. The failures have happened in a couple of different places I've lived at, so this hasn't been in one confined location all the time. Everytime, I've given Microsoft the benefit of fixing it and returned it to them directly. They wouldn't repair it if it was modded, so I'm not modding them. The first 7 times it was a cycle of failed Pro systems from 2006-2009. The last one was an Arcade system that was 3 months old. Forget comparing this to another gaming system. As the post above compares to a car, toaster, etc., to fail so many times over for any kind of a product is unacceptable. I can see from the replies, some people have stopped playing on the platform because of it, or avoided it altogether. I understand it is an unbelievable situation to some. If it wasn't happening to me, I'd have my doubts this could happen so many times over. Why I put this out here was to find out and ask what are others doing about it and why do you feed into it, if you keep sending it back. If it hasn't failed on you, that's great. But why aren't people talking enough about this and holding Microsoft accountable for its product? I hope you guys have an open mind and asks yourselves how you are addressing the RROD problem.  
 
Some of my favorite games are on the Xbox 360 platform. I used it regularly for Netflix as well. I was there since launch day, just as any other platform. I wish it would work right. But it doesn't and it's not me. It's Microsoft's hardware. Really, ask yourself if you've heard such a thing with any gaming system over the last 20 years.
I don't even care about fanboyism anymo
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 07:07:23
Why the hell do people still buy the damn thing? You went through 8 so far? I can't say you should blame microsoft completely for the problem anymore. You, the consumer are now part of the problem, continuously buying their technical garbage even though you know failure is imminent. I just saw a petition was launched because gamers felt Activision sucked and that MW2 was overpriced; why aren't gamers uniting against microsoft and just not buy their product. There are three other capable gaming options out there (Wii, PC and PS3) so use them.
Harry
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 07:22:38
It is a disgrace as from first hand experience, my Jasper model 360 failed after I had it for 2 months. 
 
That is my 4th fricking 360 console now to break#!! enough is enough I think now. No more
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 07:26:28
truth is, in today's market, consoles are made to break. ever since my mega drive in 1991, none of my consoles have failed. this changed in 2009 with my xbox 360 elite. i waited about two years until i finally got one, hoping that the falcon model would be the one to stop the dreaded rrod. exactly one year after i bought it, to the day! RROD.. i ended up fixing it myself and it worked fine for another six or so months until, e74! desperate for an answer and knowing my warranty was gone, i decided to open it up again. after fiddling with bits and pieces i finally decided to do the rrod fix again, thinking that the e74 could be a possible rrod in disguise as i've only heard of it occuring after the nxe update. about an hour later, xbox is up and running. i though i won this war again, when after about two days of NON-MARATHON gaming, e74! i ended up buying a ps3, partly because i've always wanted one, i loved the ps2, and because it had a lower failure rate. the fact that jasper models are now apparently experiencing rrod is just robbery. i have a 100+ collection of xbox 360 games, a good couple of hundred dollars worth of dlc, and another couple of hundred dollars worth of peripherals and shit. don't know what to do with them. i, however won't be jumping on the bandwagon and completely losing faith in microsoft or the xbox. hopefully something happens soon and they can fix this issue or else i can't see them entering or selling well in the next generation.
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 09:58:55
My kids 360 just failed with an RROD yesterday. The bad news is that its out of warrantee. This has been a total of 4 failures since I purchased my 360 back in 2005. I was considering replacing it with a new unit thinking that the RROD was just a thing of the past now with the new Video chipsets and supposed re-designs but that doesn't seem to be the case. Well, all I would have to say is that the 360 is performing up to par along with all other Microsoft products so I shouldn't be surprised. 
 
I'm considering replacing the 360 with a PS3. I already own a PS3 but this would replace the console my kids play on a regular bases. Fortunately, I haven't really invested in a lot of games for the 360 since I knew this day would eventually come. All consoles will eventually fail but an average failure rate of 1 per year is ridiculous. While the game lineup has its advantages and XBOX Live is pretty nice, neither advantage outweighs the constant fear I had knowing that today might be the day the 360 fails. At lease my mind would be at ease with another PS3. I hope you are reading this Robert Bach - either make a reliable console or get out of the business.
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 12:39:17
i don't know if anyone noticed but do you have the new GPU heatsink? i have one, idon't know if they manufactur the 360 with the new heatsink or it's just for repaired cosoles, if you don't know what it is, take your 360 and take a flashlight and if you don't see your DVD drive you have it compared to the old heatsink this is new, it's like the CPU heatsink basicly, there is a coper spiral extended from the old GPU heatsink and it comes right in the front because mainly all of the rrod, comes from the GPU. because microsoft had to shrink the heatsink to fit the DVD drive. i fix 360's and that is was the main problom is if that heatsink was like the CPU heatsink it would happen a lot less because there would me more airflow. i was thinking on doing this mod on my example consol that i can try and make an extrnal DVD drive.
Maybe it's an Xbox thing (Let It Go)
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 17:29:06
- My xbox lasted 3 years, fair enough 
- 8th Xbox 
- $99 xbox live 
- Copper RROD fix 
- Xbox RROD PERM Fix! 
- Towel overheat Temporarly fix 
 
Goddammit, it saddens the hell outa me(in some cases scares the SH*T outa me)that there are still Xbox fanboys left on this plannet who will defend (in most cases FIGHT for)the pain and suffering Microsoft has casued you all. 
 
Redards 
Po0h. 
 
T.H.E E.N.D*
On my 4th xbox 360 in 2 1/2 years.
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 17:38:44
I'm on my 4th xbox 360 since jan 2007. I purchased my wii and ps3 at the same time and they both still work reliably. Silly that microsoft can't redesign the system but then I realized why would they when they are selling like hotcakes. I mean everyone who goes out and buys a new 360 when theirs breaks is just promoting faulty hardware because they can be lazy on the design and sell double or more the units. When it breaks go buy a wii or ps3 for christ sakes and support the ones who did their homework and made a quality system.
rrod
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 19:09:54
ps3 failures are due to human errors as well as the wii.not well ventilated or in dusty rooms.blu ray problems are from scratches on the disc,another human error.i had a jasper360 it got rrod,had it fixed and traded in for ps3 and wii games.PS would you buy a new car with problems,dont waste $$$$$$.
360 is not that great
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 21:48:43
I use to have a 360, when it failed I considered on getting a second system. The Xbox support number told me I would have to pay $100 to ship and to fix it it. I took my 360 in to get some trade in credit to purchase a second unit but with a friends persuasion decided on a ps3 and haven't looked back. I admit i miss halo and a few other exclusives but don't have to worry about RROD. As far as the 360 failure rates it is rediculous and Xbox Live is overrated. I loved my 360 but MS has failed us this time and it is also the cosumers fault that their still in the gaming industry. The original Xbox was awsome but 360 will go down in history as a poorly constructed system. I am no fanboy and my best advice is if you are considering either a Ps3 or 360, get the ps3 cause it is far more reliable and the 3rd party titles are mostly the same. This goes to show that bad things happen when you rush products that are not yet ready in the first place.
ha
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 22:27:12
Go on the playstation forums and read about all the people that have the 60g ps3 that have ylod
Fanboys?
Written by Guest on 2009-08-09 23:24:25
This is NOT just another PS3 fanboy comment - no, indeed I loved my 360 but fail to see the point in continuing to support a product that has the failure rate that I've experienced. So, I go to the PS3 (The Wii is just not for me) which doesn't make me a fanboy - just an informed consumer who is tired of dealing with a faulty product. MS should RENT 360's out instead of selling them considering that, on average, they last a little over a year with heavy usage - that way people won't feel so bad and it would actually make MS fix the issue since they would then be responsible for their units
Happened with me
Written by Guest on 2009-08-10 08:10:35
Same thing happened with me. 
I am an occasional gamer that only has a few hours a week of actual gaming time. Reliability is #1 for me. One day when I went to power on the puppy, I observed the three red L.E.D's. I Returned the unit to MS for repair, 4 weeks later got a dirty refurb from them. My unit I sent in was new with approx 12 hours of usage. I called MS to complain about the dirty cat hair infested, greasy XBOX 360 they sent me only to get another greasy XBOX 360 refurb sent to me again. 
 
I sold it on Craigs list with my collection of accessories and games, and got myself a PS3.  
 
My PS3 is probably the best console I have ever owned. Wi-fi built-in, plays my blurays, and the system seems much more robust. 
 
I was so impressed that I got a PSP shortly after for my long train rides. Best move I have ever made. Way to go SONY! 
 
I'm suprised MS is still able to sell 360's even with all their problems. 4 years later and the same discussions are happening.
Still the best choice
Written by Guest on 2009-08-10 08:40:10
Even though the 360 has a problem it's still better than the competition. The only time i play my ps3 is when i send in my 360 to be replaced. Microsoft is just lucky the ps3 is a failure.
I rarely have hardware issues on any sys
Written by Guest on 2009-08-10 14:25:42
I play quite often, and have even left my launch 360 on while I sleep (or pass out) many times by accident. I also have a bunch of other game systems sitting around.  
 
I never had any hardware failures on a console until ps2, but that was only one time and the ps2 slim I replaced it with is just fine. Even my old Ataris and NESs still work (though require 'blowing.') My Dreamcast can be annoying, because the batteries in the vmus died ages ago, and I don't care to replace them over and over, but they still work. And some of my N64 memory cards don't work, but the games all work fine. 
 
Am I just insanely lucky or do I just know how to care for things? 
 
I wonder about environmental elements, like dust and humidity. Do certain parts of the country have more 360 failures than others?
????WTF
Written by Guest on 2009-08-10 22:24:58
People still support this system, when my Jasper got the RROD for the 1st time, I left 360 alone. The 360 is just a defective product, no excuse.
LOL
Written by Guest on 2009-08-11 01:07:12
ITS TIME TO JUMP SHIP, GET A PS3, B4 ITS TO LATE!!! 
ITS TIME TO JUMP SHIP, GET A PS3, B4 ITS TO LATE!!! 
ITS TIME TO JUMP SHIP, GET A PS3, B4 ITS TO LATE!!! 
ITS TIME TO JUMP SHIP, GET A PS3, B4 ITS TO LATE!!!null
Roly G (Sha'ul)
Written by Guest on 2009-08-11 19:22:44
can someone slap the guy who said "the owner is playin pirated games" with a chancleta??? cmon man that's some dumb sh%t. Microsoft rushed this bitch. Does the 360 suck? no. Could Microsoft tighten their asses up and fix the problem? i'm sure they could but they're too busy gettin ready to launch the Zune HD. o well.
Extended Warranty Anyone?
Written by Guest on 2009-08-12 09:27:14
I'm only on my second xbox and decided to purchase the Best Buy 2 year extended warranty for $50. I would rather return my defective box to BB for a new one without having to deal with Microsoft's poor excuse for customer service. A PS3 is next but not until Sony reduces the price significantly.
rrod
Written by Guest on 2009-08-12 22:56:42
fanboys is ignorant ylod is caused by human errors
Gamertag: Joer22784
Written by Guest on 2009-08-14 21:31:16
My 360 is on its way for repair right now, microsofts aug 11th MANDATORY update fried my system and gave it RROD immediately. If u read the xbox.com forums you will see this update also killed alot of other peoples 360's as well. This is my 2 repair, first was about 8 months ago. I've only had my xbox for a year and a half and already have to send it in twice. I love Xbox360 but i hope that greedy microsoft gets what they deserve. Screwing over the very people that help them pay their bills.
A little preventive maintenance
Written by Guest on 2009-08-15 01:00:24
Still on my first 360. I had heard about all the RROD before I got mine (did alot of reading) so I went and got an Intercooler and added an external power supply to the intercooler to prevent current draw from the main unit. Now Intercooler came out recently with a new model that has a separate power cord (wow, it took them that long to make it, I could have told them way back when I built mine ).  
 
The only problem I had so far was the 20GB hard drive go bad (E68 error) on a few sectors causing my profile to go bad. Once I repaired the sectors, I got the GT reloaded from Xboxlive and everything works great.  
 
I agree with the person who mentioned about keeping your xbox360 cool. For the cpu and gpu to come off after being surface mounted tells me that there is really a lot of heat(260C, 500F are typical temps for reflow on surface mounted chips).  
 
Do a little preventive maintenance and get the new Intercooler TS with it's own power supply (I think it's only $18.00, much cheaper than my intercooler plus external variable power supply, and no I don't work for Intercooler). Also, it may be a little noisy depending upon the fans but I use headphones anyway and don't need the hassle of sending for a refurbished xbox360. 
 
For those who want other cooling methods, I've even seen an internal water cooling system for the 360 but I didn't want to void my warranty by opening mine up if anything did go wrong since 3yrs coverage was not bad (just a hassle/wait to send it back to MS based on what I read). 
 
Remember, this may or may not help you since things do fail (DVD drives/fans will fail because they are mechanical) but a little preventive maintenance will keep your xbox360 last a little longer. It did for me so far. :)
If you see more broken PS3's.....
Written by Guest on 2009-08-15 19:33:32
It's because it's selling more. 2% of 5 million units is not a lot, but %2 of 24 million units sold is why more PS3's break down. 
 
My Launch PS3 died on me last September, but i've had 3 friends who's 360 has broken down AT LEAST 3 times.
Written by Guest on 2009-08-16 17:22:07
I have heard the PS3 Version of batman arkham asylum has multiple bugs and glitches thats why they added the Joker to it too try and boost sales for the PS3 version.
twice bitten
Written by Guest on 2009-08-16 17:34:56
i have had two consoles die from the rrod
Unbelievable
Written by Guest on 2009-08-16 20:43:37
I have a first gen xbox and has been working totally fine for years. I just installed the latest xbox live update and it didnt reboot. Went straight to RROD. Anyone else have problems?
Written by Guest on 2009-08-16 22:42:41
Has anyone else heard about the PS3 version of Batman Arkham Asylum having problems? 
 
it sounds like one more good game not playable on the PS3. :eek
RROD following update
Written by Guest on 2009-08-17 13:41:33
Still more RROD is being reported here on the xbox.com forums.
RROD survey is alarming
Written by Alexis M. on 2009-08-17 13:58:58
GameInformer survey of 5000 finds 54% of Xbox 360 have failed. :x
original xbox 360 from launch
Written by Guest on 2009-08-19 10:26:56
original xbox 360 from launch. Have had no issues with it. Do you think im lucky? Or maybe I dont hate Microsoft like almost everyone on this site.
Luck
Written by Guest on 2009-08-19 10:33:31
Yeah, I think you're lucky honestly. It's not Microsoft hate. Just facts on the issues with the faulty Xbox 360 hardware.
Stop complaining...
Written by Guest on 2009-08-21 12:09:30
Did you buy your console to watch it turn on or to play games? If you want to see a console turn on get a PS3. If you want to play games, get a 360. If it breaks, guess what, MS fixes it on their dime. What's the problem? People need to stop complaining. 360 has better games and XBLive. PS has bluray. If you want to watch movies, get the PS3. I got a console to play games, so I got a 360. It RROD'd on me. Sent it in, came back 6 days later, no complaints. A 3 year warranty works out to around $8 a day for a new Xbox at $300. If you can't afford $8, then get the PS3...
BestBuy Warranty
Written by Guest on 2009-08-28 19:05:53
The Best Buy warranty is no better. Mine died a month ago and I bought mine about the same time you did. I should have read the terms and conditions. Like you, the sales person told me it was an in-store replacement warranty. 
 
When my device failed (after 10 months) I took it back to Best Buy. A week later, I got a dingy one back which immediately had problems reading discs. 24 hours later it was E-74'd. We took it back and 18 days later I still have nothing. Essentially, I have been without my unit for a month or so. Customer relations haven't done anything for me despite multiple calls.  
 
If you believe Best Buy will protect you, lets hope you never need to find out.
eh?
Written by Guest on 2009-08-29 01:34:42
i'm still on my launch 360. however, i had to send my ps3 back because it crashed during a firmware upgrade when i bought killzone 2. i never played a game before kz2 so i never even bothered with new firmwares. at least an update never killed my 360. just my 2 cents.
arkham glitches
Written by Guest on 2009-09-01 21:07:04
I can confirm Arkham Asylum for PS3 has glitches, most notable the colour artifacts, walls and pipes will flash all sorts of colours. This i can deal with, what i can't deal with is the system hanging almost every time i try to use the batclaw and swing somewhere or explore around a bit. The game is unplayable on my PS3. I brought it into future shop and replaced it item for item, and erased all install data and moved my save game to a usb drive. i installed using the new disc started a new game and halfway down to the real start of the game the color artifacts appeared and 5 min later the game froze again. i have latest firmware, my ps3 is well ventilated and no other games give me issues, 173 hours into fallout 3(i explore)...not one issue. 
 
Anyone else??
Wished the Xbox360 wasn't a big piece o
Written by Guest on 2009-09-22 10:09:02
I own an Xbox1 japanese version for DOA3/DOAU,DOAXV(all long playing games especially the last one clocked in 200+ hours). Haven't regretted buying it, and it still works.But it sure scratched the shit off my DOA3 
 
:cry  
At present, I own the first gen 20gb USA Xbox360 purchase November 2007. I own a total of 7 games but the unit gave out on me last February 2009.This despite my playing a max of 2hours a week. I live in SEA so the price sending it for repair ain't worth the pain and effort. Had the store where I purchased the unit, repair it for an equivalent of $US50.00. 
 
Sure the unit is still working but the sword of 3RL is always hanging on my head. Been considering getting a Jasper but I trust MS as far as I can throw them after this fiasco.........I'll play a wait and see and hopefully target a Wii next. 
 
Btw, just purchased PS3 slim and been playing my first game MGS4. Unit works like a breeze and loads near instantaneously......I hope no future hardware failures here.
The price we pay
Written by Guest on 2009-10-07 13:08:53
After my first RROD 360 which happened 3 months in (and I purchased from an online company that REPAIRS 360s!)  
I've learned that you need to: 
 
1. learn how to fix this problem yourself (because MS hasn't yet).  
2. Buy them cheap (people are practically dumping them on craigslist; you can probably pickup a 20Gig for around $120). 
3. Buy more than one, because it will most likely fail (and or get a PS3 as a backup).
Fanboyism getting really old
Written by Guest on 2009-10-07 15:13:16
Let's just clear the air: the 360 is NOT a reliable piece of hardware PERIOD. Let's just stop trying to deflect the issue here by saying you have an extended warranty. A 3 year warranty does NOT make everything AOK. 
That said, the games and XBL are great, but MS needs to go back to the drawing board and fix this issue once and for all.
Jumped out
Written by Guest on 2009-10-08 09:13:37
I lost three Xbox 360s and just jumped out. I love Microsoft Game Studio franchises but but everything has a limit my patience exhausted and I'm happy now with a PC for gaming.
The Solution is out there....
Written by Guest on 2009-12-10 09:02:24
And it seems to me that almost NONE OF YOU KNOW IT! I mean...jesus, I love both the 360 and Sony, because I'm actually saving up money to buy myself a Ps3, just to have it in the house. Its always something with you people. If its not the system's exclusive games, it is the graphics. If its not that, then its the hardware. If its not that, then its the companies you argue about. 
 
NOW, Microsoft should've fixed this from the beginning, I agree on that, however they finally got their cards right and completely handled the problem of the RODD... 
 
I know the article creator said that the Jasper is nothing but a fail just like the Falcon, but it is not true at all. First of all, you have to make sure your 360 IS A JASPER:  
 
(on the back of the system, right above Made In China/or where it was made, look for 12.1A, or soemthing like that. If it is any higher, your screwed.) 
 
Now, you're probably thinking right now that I don't know what I'm saying. That the 360 still sucks regardless. Well, I know perfectly, because with the Jasper console, you can FAKE THE RODD. 
 
It is as simple as slightly pulling the powercord out of the back of the 360, it won't give the 360 enough power, and you will get auto 3 lights. 
 
More than likely that is what the guy that made this article did. So please, people, I know that it was your own hard earned money that was put into these systems, but there is no longer a problem.... And even if it was, the chances of the RODD now are wayyyyyy low compared to the Falcon. 
 
Closing: 360+Ps3+Wii are all excellent systems. If you are a gamer, you shouldn't give a rats about which one you got. Each system has its problems, and each company has to solve them in order to keep their customers. Microsoft did their job, now lets see Nintendo and Sony do theirs. 
 
UniversalWolf21, owner of ALMOST every system....out.

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